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There may be debate about whether we have
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question that when an American falls in battle,
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in the effort to save his life.

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From massive flying intensive care units
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action, the wounded are being saved
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science, speed, and guts.

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No one dies on the back of my helicopter.
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breathe for them. I beat for them.
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then weeks, then months, these seven women
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surrounded by evil. Makale, what went
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here hour after hour after hour?
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cutting you? If they will rip you? First,
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In other words, thinking terrified thoughts.
Exactly. And you were terrified all

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21st century science and old-fashioned
guts are revolutionizing combat medicine

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for our troops. In Iraq, the medical units
made famous by MASH have been retired

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in favor of new combat hospitals set up
in the midst of the action. One thing

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that hasn't changed though, is the courage
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are saving lives like never before.
Last year, we went to see the action up

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close. We met two wounded Americans,
Marine Corporals Kenny Lyon and Brad Folks.

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You wouldn't have expected either to have
survived what happened to them. Their

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families agreed to let us tell you the
story of how today's combat medicine gave

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both men a fighting chance.

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Kenny Lyon from Maryland was one gifted
mechanic, and so he was outside trying to

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fix his broken down armored vehicle when
the mortar exploded. By the time he

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reached the hospital, half of his blood
was gone already. His pressure was

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critically low. Corporal Lyon's life
was slipping away through three

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lacerated arteries and too many wounds
to count. Shrapnel had torn into his

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head, neck, both legs, both arms.
His left foot there on the bottom was turning

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white, no circulation.

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Paulette Schenk is a Lieutenant Colonel
in the Air Force Reserve back home. She's

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a nurse anesthetist in a hospital near
Philadelphia. It's a battle. You know,

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sometimes people are fighting to die on
the table desperately. Fighting to die?

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Meaning their body is going further and
further down the wrong direction. They

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need us to be able to resuscitate them
so that we can stop that negative spiral

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downward so that we go back to the
spiral of life. Schenk supervised the

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operating rooms of the Air Force Theater
Hospital. This is the war's busiest

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trauma center, an encampment of 32 tents
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The 332nd Expeditionary Group has 400
staff and more than 300 trauma patients a

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month. To be close to the patients,
the hospital is close to the battle. In the

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background, there's the sound of incoming
wounded that beats against the canvas

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like an alarm. When you hear the helicopters
coming in, is there a sense of dread

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about what's going to come through the
door next? I think it more is one of, it's

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the next challenge is coming through the
door to ward off that ugly death man who

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wants to take away your person and it's
your job to make sure he's not successful

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today. The day Kenny Lyon was wounded,
another Marine, Brad Folks, was hit by a

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roadside bomb. He's from West Virginia,
a two-time state boxing champion,

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suddenly in the fight of his life the
day before his 23rd birthday. Corporal

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Folks made it to the Army's 10th
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Lieutenant Colonel Warren Dorelak flew in
with a team just for Folks. Dr. Dorelak

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is chief of trauma at the Giant American
Medical Center in Landstuhl, Germany.

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He's one of the military's top doctors.
He came himself because of Folks'

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condition.
Folks lost a lung, his kidneys are failing, and

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half his body is burned.

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I think his overall prognosis just from
his burn alone is actually very good.

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Even burn that extensively. Even burn
that extensively. The problem with this

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patient is that he has a number of other
severe injuries, the biggest being the

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problem with his one lung. We got to
get him on this flight. As sick as Brad

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Folks is, Dorelak is moving him to Germany.
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carrying is so advanced, some of it isn't
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yet, and at the same time Folks is flying
to Germany, special medical teams from

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Texas and Maryland are flying to Germany
to meet him. At what point do you say to

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yourself, we can't save this life? You know,
we don't make that decision. We go

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full court press on everybody.
That full court press starts with the quick

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response of these medevac helicopters
flying emergency rooms. Staff Sergeant

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Danny Stevenson is a flight medic with
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Company. Back on September 11, 2001,
he was a staff medic at the Pentagon,

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treating the wounded. After 9-11,
he asked the Army to send him overseas. They

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called you, you don't have backup.
You are the backup. So if you can't get the

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job done, nobody else can.
It's a lot of pressure, and

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I can handle that kind of pressure.

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Helicopter units like this one are spread
out all over Iraq so that no injured

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man or woman is more than 20 or 25 minutes
from their reach. It's all about what

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the doctors call the golden hour,
that first hour after the injury when a Marine

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or a soldier can easily bleed to death.
Speed is everything. The medevac

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helicopters are sometimes fired on,
and there's always the possibility of an

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ambush on the ground. You ever scared?
I don't get scared. No, come on

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now. Everybody gets scared.

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I mean, some stuff freaks me out sometimes,
but if you freak out on the scene,

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you're just gonna lose control of it.
If you lose control of it, you're gonna

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die. We put a camera on Stevenson's helmet
to see what he sees. She's the company

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medic,
treating two soldiers hit by a roadside bomb.

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The wounded were Iraqi.
Stevenson signaled an L for litters or

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stretchers to be brought over.

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Just 17 minutes take off to touchdown.
The wounded reach the hospital, and they

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will survive. No one can see [...
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it stays. You keep them alive. That's right.

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I breathe for them. I beat for them.
I do everything I can for them. Back in the

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hospital, Kenny Lyon, the mechanic from
Maryland, had moved into the operating

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room. Five surgeons worked from head to toe.
They pumped in blood. 10 units, 20

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units, 30 units, and more. They couldn't
stop the bleeding in his left leg.

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Paulette Schenk, the nurse we met earlier,
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It's ugly. This is the ugliest side of war.
But at least if they can control the

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bleeding now, at least has a better chance
of survival. A better chance, but Lyon

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ran through all the blood they had.
A call went out for donors. Schenk was first

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in line. Our job is to resuscitate,
to allow the surgeons time to stop the

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bleeding. And [...]

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Sometimes you're not successful, and it hurts.

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Feel like you let the soldier down.
You know, the wicked

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death spiral won in that event.

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And you fought so hard.
It fights so hard against him

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winning. Yeah. And sometimes he wins.

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Maybe it was Schenk's blood that
made a difference, but more

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blood bought more time.

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Lyon's surgery would go on for hours.
That same night, Brad Folks, the burn

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Marine from West Virginia,
was loaded onto a C-17 cargo plane, rigged for

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intensive care, and bound from Iraq to Germany.
He's improving. Actually,

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from the time we picked him up at the
combat support hospital, slowly along the

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way, he's been continuously improving.
Some patients sedated will never know they

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were on the flight. Others can't
seem to leave their memories behind.

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The set up on these planes is a big innovation.
Doctors have even

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performed surgery on board.

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In Vietnam, it took about 40 days for the
wounded to get to the states. Now, it's

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as little as three days. Back in the hospital,
we found that nearly half of the

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patients aren't Americans at all.
Many are Iraqi civilians, like this boy named

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Anas, who was wounded in a bombing,
and this teenage girl who came in with a head

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wound. They took her to the CT scanner
and found shrapnel had cut across her

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brain. There was nothing they
could do for her but offer a last

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touch before dying.

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We found Anas a few days later,
doing much better under the care of Dr. Adnan

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Rabi, an American who grew up in Iraq.
It is very sad, actually, to see all of

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these casualties of war on innocent people.
But that's a heavy price. This

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country is paying for peace and democracy.
Worth it. I think so. Really?

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Not for this generation,
maybe for the next generation. For the next

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generation. Maybe his generation.

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I hope so. We caught up with Brad Folks,
the burn Marine from West Virginia, as

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he made it to Germany. Days later,
he was well enough to fly on to the Army Burn

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Center in Texas, where he was reunited
with his family. Dr. Dorlak says that by

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that point, his care involved a dozen
aircraft and maybe a thousand Air Force

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personnel. No one would want to care
to put a price tag on this, but just

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to get a sense of the scope, it probably
isn't unreasonable to believe that a

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million dollars was spent on this young
man to save his life. I'd say that's

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probably a conservative number.
Still, all of the effort wasn't enough.

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Eighteen days after he was wounded,
Brad Folks, like many burn patients, lost his

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life to an infection,
leaving behind his parents and two sisters.

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For Kenny Lyon, it's a different story.
He got through his surgery. In five days,

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he was back in the States. It's been hard
and he's been lucky. But this is Kenny

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at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in
Washington, D.C. He's working with an

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artificial leg. He has nerve damage in
both arms. Part of his tongue is gone and

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a wire is holding his jaw together.
How much do you think you're going to get

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back? I'm going to get everything back.
That's my goal right now.

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I'm just happy. I love coming here every day

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and doing my therapy and pushing myself.
And every day, I get stronger and better

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and faster and I can use my hands more
and I'm having fun. You're having fun?

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Yeah, why not? What else am I going to do?
Might as well make the best of my

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situation. I mean, I'm better. I'm alive.
It's all downhill from here. It's all

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gravy. Kenny Lyon joins nearly 9,000
Americans who survived severe wounds

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in Iraq. The military says it's the best
survival rate in history. But Paulette

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Schenck told us it's not the survivors
she remembers so much as the patients

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she's lost, like a sergeant who died a
few months ago, one of those who never

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quite leaves her. I still talked to him
up there and say, I need your strength

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with me today. Sergeant so-and-so,
I really need your strength with me

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and I'll say his name. You remember the names.

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I hear a helicopter.

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And I'll think of my sergeant.

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I was an orphan when the Duke-A's took me in.

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Pancho was like a father to me.
His battles are my battles. Duke and name meant

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rum, not sugar. Sugar is the new oil.
His daughter is my wife. As of tomorrow,

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Alex will run the company. This is not
okay with me. His enemies. We've let our

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neighbors dictate our sugar fortunes long
enough. Are my enemies. You will never

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threaten my family again.
I'm the one that you will deal with now.

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The genocide in Rwanda 13 years ago was
the most efficient ever carried out. 800

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,000 people were slaughtered in just 100 days.
Rwanda's minority tribe was almost

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wiped out. Those who managed to
survive did so with a combination of

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courage, cunning, and dumb luck.

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One young college-educated woman from a
remote village told us her incredible and

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inspiring survivor's tale last year.
Immaculate Illa Bagesa told us she was

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finally speaking out in hopes of preventing
further atrocities not only in Rwanda

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but in Darfur and other places where
massacres loom on the horizon.

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In Rwanda, the green and hilly and tranquil
looking land immaculate saw something

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in the distance 13 years ago and
realized life would never be the same.

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I remember looking up to the hill next
across to the river and I saw somebody

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actually with a body and we were all
like wow something's happening here.

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They went to kill us. You saw it over there.

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Over there, over there with somebody you
can still see a person like was like

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cutting cutting and somebody was screaming.
People were screaming all over the

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country. The genocide had begun.

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It was extremely low tech. No gas
chambers here, just machetes, spears, and

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knives wielded by Hutus, the majority tribe,
as they tried to wipe out the

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minority Tutsis. There were no organized
roundups as there had been in Nazi

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Germany. Tutsis were slaughtered in their
tracks wherever they were found. The

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killing fields were everywhere. When it
was over, three out of every four Tutsis

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in Rwanda had been killed. When it began,
Immaculate's father told her to run to

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a minister's house three miles away and
to beg him to hide her. The minister was

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a Hutu, a member of the majority tribe
that was killing the Tutsis, but he'd been

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a friend of the family's and he was a minister.
And I went to him. I was shaking.

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I told him my father asked me to come here
because his things are getting really

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bad in our village. He took me and said come,
come. He put Immaculate and six

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other women in a tiny, rarely used
bathroom in a remote corner of the house,

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hidden not only from intruders, but from
the minister's large family. They showed

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us how they did it. Immaculate and the
other tall women sat with their backs

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against the wall. They pulled the
smaller girls down on top of them.

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They couldn't all move at the same time.
So when he took us in the bathroom, I

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was like oh my god, I will be saved here.
This bathroom is so hidden that we're

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going to be saved. You thought this is
salvation. Really? I couldn't. You didn't

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think how are we all going to fit in there?
No, that was another question. I was

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trying to fit in any hall I can just to hide.
They took turns standing and

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stretching. Seven women in this bathroom,
three feet by four feet, for 91 days.

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They've been out of here for 12 years now,
but being back brought back the hurry.

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Sometimes at night when they couldn't
take it anymore, they retreated into this

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larger room adjacent to the bathroom.
So show me how you would be when you were

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in this room. But it was more dangerous
in here. Killers lurked just outside the

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window so the women couldn't stand up or talk.
They were searching. They were

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there all the time. It was constantly intense,
intense, intense. Several people

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had seen the Tutsi women arrive at the
pastor's house, but no one had seen them

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leave. So after a few days, dozens of Hutus
stormed the house, hoping to find the

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women and kill them.
There's a little window in the bathroom.

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I went up and I looked through the curtains
and I saw people running, running,

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running, inside the house.
And I heard them. I can see the

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spears.
They brought their spears into the house.

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In the house. I never been so scared in
my life. I remember it was like life

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swept out of your body in a second.
I became dry instantly. I couldn't even find

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saliva to swallow. Pastor Simi and Nahabi
Manah showed us how he tried to divert

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the killers away from the women.
He showed them other bedrooms and urged them to

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search his attic. And he was telling them,
I send them away. Those girls, I send

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them away. They can help themselves.
I don't want to be in trouble. The first

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time the killers came here to search your
house, did you think they were going to

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find the women and kill everyone,
including yourself? Yes, yes, I thought so.

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I thought that if they had seen them,
they would have forced me to kill them or

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they would have killed me and killed
them as well. You think they might have

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forced you to kill them? That's what
they did elsewhere. Wherever they found

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somebody hiding people,
they forced them to kill them. And

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afterwards, they also killed the person.

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The door was always closed. During the
first search, one killer actually put his

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hand on the door leading to the bathroom,
but he never opened it. After that, the

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pastor showed us how he moved a bureau
in front of the door to hide it from

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future searchers. Everything outside
the bathroom, where Nirmakkale and the

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others were huddled,
the entire country had become a killing field.

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Hutu's, along with Machete's,
searched every house, every hill, and killed

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every Tutsi they could find.

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What prompted the genocide? There are
things you can point to. The Hutus had long

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-standing resentments against the Tutsis
who formed the nation's elite. They had

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the better houses, better jobs.
Radio Rwanda broadcast calls day and night for

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the Hutus to go out and kill Tutsis.

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And the Hutus were told by their own
leaders that if they didn't join the

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killers, they would join the dead.
There are these things you can point to, but

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do they explain what happened? What could
possibly explain what happened? Here's

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one explanation from one killer who'd
been Immakale's neighbor. Alex Niburukki

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spent 11 years in prison after
admitting he killed six people.

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They told me that I would
be rewarded with a piece of

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land and a banana plantation.

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They told the same to other people,
but you see, they

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didn't give me any banana plantation.

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They told you you would be rewarded with
a banana plantation if you did what?

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They told us to kill, and we killed.
We just did it.

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What exactly did you do?

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I got my machete and a nail-studded
club and started killing. He killed his

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neighbors and told us he had nothing
against any of them, two who

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were Immakale's second cousins.

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How did you kill them?

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I shot one with a machete and killed the
other one with the nail-studded club.

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He'd grown up with Immakale,
been her family's handyman, but if you and the

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others had found Immakale during the

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killings, would you have killed Immakale too?

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Because of the way I was,
I would have attacked her definitely.

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For days, then weeks, then months,
these seven women stayed squeezed into the

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tiny bathroom, surrounded by evil.
Immakale, what went through your minds when

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you were sitting here hour
after hour after hour?

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How are they going to catch us?
Where will they start cutting

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you? If they will rip you?

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In other words, thinking terrified thoughts.

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Exactly.

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So you were terrified all the time?

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Completely.

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They all expected to be killed, eventually.

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Once in,
she just hoped she'd be shot and not tortured.

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Another made the pastor promise
to put dirt on her corpse

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so dogs wouldn't eat her.

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And what did the women have to eat? Not much.

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I remember sometimes we used
to eat just like beans.

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There was this little insect
that came out of beans.

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Jesus, how am I going to eat it?

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But then you manage that for a while.

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Yeah, then I'm like, okay.

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When you're hungry, you'll eat anything.

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Yeah, I close my eyes, and then I did.

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Still, Immakale said she lost 40 pounds
that one-third of herself disappeared

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during her three months in the bathroom.

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I was a completely skeleton.

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I remember me, myself, thinking,
looking at my hands, and I was like, this is

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what the biologists used to tell us.

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You know, we are really,
we have a skeleton like this.

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But it was completely like
I can see every bone.

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When you looked at yourself,
you were your own anatomy lesson.

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Completely. It was shocking.

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Also shocking, to keep them flush their
toilet unless someone else in the house

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flushed the toilet on the other side of
their wall, and they couldn't bathe.

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So for three months, you couldn't wash at all?

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I thought we didn't have any next
clothes or any to the brush.

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The brush was nothing. We couldn't.

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Once when the killers came into the house
searching for you, you actually heard

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one of the killers shout your name?

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Yeah, I did, yeah.

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I heard somebody calling my name, Dutch.

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He said actually that he
have killed 399 cockroaches,

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and he wanted me to be the 400.

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Cockroaches is what the
Hutus called the Tutsis.

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Oh my gosh.

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I was so scared that he knows where I am.

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He's so sure.

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It was like dying alive, really.

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When I remember the pain of that place,
it was like every day you are like

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something is dying slowly,
dying thousands of times, yeah.

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The pastor left his bedroom radio on
so the women could hear the news.

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After three months of genocide, they heard
that French troops had finally arrived

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in Rwanda to protect surviving Tutsis,
and that one French camp was

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just a few miles away.

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Immaculate persuaded the pastor to sneak
them there in the middle of the night.

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Two in the morning.

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Two in the morning, yeah.

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That was liberation day, really.

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Liberation day?

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Yeah.

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How did you do it?

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Yeah, we stood up first of all,
never really much standing up.

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If I can remember, I remember fixing
my knees like I couldn't walk.

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But they managed to walk and run,
concealed by the night, to the French compound.

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When I reached the gate, I was like,
where Tutsi, please, [...]

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So I said, okay, come in.

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We went in.

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For the first time in three months,
I saw somebody genuinely having pity on us.

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She was safe, but soon sorry because
Immaculate learned that her two brothers,

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and her mother and father, had all been killed.

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Her father had been shot trying to
get food for his neighbor's children.

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And then they took his body
to put it on the roadblock.

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They took your father's
body to put on a roadblock.

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So your father's body
became part of a roadblock.

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Roadblock, yeah.

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After 100 days, a Tutsi army formed
in exile had captured most of the

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country and stopped the genocide.

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Today, Tutsis are still in control
and are sharing power with Hutus.

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The economy is coming back.

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Hundreds of thousands of Tutsis
have come back from exile.

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And these dancers are singing that
tourists should come back too.

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The country may be peaceful,
but it's still on edge.

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Some Hutus want to resume the genocide.

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Some Tutsis still want revenge.

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Immaculate knows Rwandans can never forget,
but she believes they must forgive.

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Revenge, she told us, only prolongs the pain.

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And I don't want it.

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I don't want them, after killing my family,
to give me this luggage in my heart,

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in my belly, you know, to hold this anger.

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So she has even forgiven Alex,
the man who killed two of her

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relatives, and who would have killed her.

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You didn't feel angry when you saw him,
not at all.

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No, I was.

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You weren't tempted to take his head
and shake it against a brick wall.

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No, I completely, my heart,
I was aware that it won't do anything.

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It won't change anything.

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It won't change his heart.

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It won't bring people killed.

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No, but it might have felt good.

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It doesn't.

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That's the funny thing.

423
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,001
It won't.

424
00:33:32,001 --> 00:33:33,000
I know well.

425
00:33:33,001 --> 00:33:37,001
Now she's a woman on a mission to spread
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426
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can prevent future atrocities.

427
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428
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429
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430
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the genocide never happened.

431
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He started to hear on radio people
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432
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And that almost takes your breath away.

433
00:33:56,001 --> 00:33:58,001
Like what I have lived is not a genocide.

434
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What is a genocide?

435
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483
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If Russell Crowe isn't the
best movie actor working

503
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today, he's certainly their equal.

504
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000
He already has one Academy Award for
Best Actor and Gladiator, and has been

505
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,001
nominated two other times for A
Beautiful Mind and The Insider.

506
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Besides being intelligent, well-read,
and incredibly talented, the Australian can

507
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,001
also be volatile, combative,
even a bit menacing.

508
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,001
So it was with some trepidation that we
sat down with him last fall to discuss

509
00:38:41,001 --> 00:38:46,000
his life, his career, and his reputation
as one of Hollywood's bad boys.

510
00:38:46,001 --> 00:38:50,001
He doesn't do television interviews that often,
and when he does, he speaks his

511
00:38:50,001 --> 00:38:52,000
mind, even if it gets him in trouble.

512
00:38:53,001 --> 00:38:55,000
This is not your favorite
thing in the world to do?

513
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,001
No, it's not, because it's very artificial.

514
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,001
You know, I can sit here and have a
conversation with you, and whatever mood it

515
00:39:01,001 --> 00:39:04,000
is that you want it to be is
what it's going to be, you

516
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,001
know, regardless of what my answers are.

517
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000
And of course, we all know the power of
editing, because we have both got careers

518
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,001
based on probably the power of editing.

519
00:39:14,001 --> 00:39:17,000
You can control the mood of the
interview as much as I can.

520
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,001
I, you know, it depends.

521
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,001
I want to try.

522
00:39:19,001 --> 00:39:20,001
You want to sell me some shoes now?

523
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,001
You've really established
yourself as a great actor.

524
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,000
I mean, it's been, whether we're talking
about Academy Awards, or Academy Award

525
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000
nominations,
the range of the roles that you've played.

526
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
I just say thank you when
we finish the interview,

527
00:39:41,001 --> 00:39:43,000
because it's going really well so far.

528
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,000
What makes you so good at it?

529
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000
You know, if I thought I was any good at it,
I probably wouldn't

530
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,001
put as much effort as I do into it, you know.

531
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,001
That effort's what sets you apart, isn't it?

532
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,001
I mean,
that effort is what makes you successful.

533
00:39:54,001 --> 00:39:55,000
I think so.

534
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,001
Yeah, well, that's the way I see it anyway.

535
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,001
I know without that effort, I wouldn't be.

536
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000
There's going to be more.

537
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,001
He built his career brick by brick with
memorable performances, and was already a

538
00:40:06,001 --> 00:40:11,000
major movie star in Australia when he
burst upon the Hollywood scene nearly a

539
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,001
decade ago in LA Confidential.

540
00:40:13,001 --> 00:40:14,000
[...]

541
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,001
Well, you think it means getting
your picture in the paper.

542
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Why don't you go out to criminals
for a change instead of cops?

543
00:40:19,001 --> 00:40:23,001
Whether he's playing a middle-aged
whistleblower in The Insider, we are in

544
00:40:23,001 --> 00:40:25,000
the nicotine delivery business.

545
00:40:25,001 --> 00:40:28,000
A schizophrenic genius in a beautiful mind.

546
00:40:28,001 --> 00:40:30,001
Despite my privilege upbringing,
I'm actually quite well balanced.

547
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,001
I have a chip on both shoulders.

548
00:40:32,001 --> 00:40:33,001
Or a gladiator.

549
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,000
He always goes the extra mile,
even if it involves bruises and fractures doing

550
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,000
his own stunts or improvising
dialogue for his character Maximus

551
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,001
with director Ridley Scott.

552
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,001
They only had 21 pages of script
when they began shooting.

553
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
I wanted to come up with a sort of two-word
thing that Max would say to people

554
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000
when he left their company,
you know, or when he greeted them.

555
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,000
And I came up with Forza Aenorum, right?

556
00:41:02,001 --> 00:41:08,000
And Ridley standing on the set going,
Oh, I thought, you know, I

557
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,001
don't know what the f*** is happening.

558
00:41:10,001 --> 00:41:13,000
I said, I mean, strengthen on it.

559
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000
And he goes, say that.

560
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000
[...]

561
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,001
Strengthen on it.

562
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,001
Strengthen on it.

563
00:41:18,001 --> 00:41:22,001
It brought him an Oscar along with a
level of celebrity and public scrutiny

564
00:41:22,001 --> 00:41:24,000
that he is uncomfortable with.

565
00:41:24,001 --> 00:41:28,001
He's a perfectionist who demands a lot
of himself and everyone around him.

566
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,000
He's still upset that Cinderella Man
underperformed at the box office and blames

567
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000
the studio for the way it was promoted.

568
00:41:37,001 --> 00:41:41,001
He calls it his favored role and
wanted an Academy Award nomination

569
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,001
and more people to see it.

570
00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:47,000
Do you feel the constant need for approval?

571
00:41:47,001 --> 00:41:51,001
Do you get nervous if people
aren't showering you with honors?

572
00:41:53,001 --> 00:41:55,000
Not with honors.

573
00:41:55,001 --> 00:41:56,000
No.

574
00:41:59,001 --> 00:42:04,000
Do I feel in an odd way that there should
be some kind of understanding between

575
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,001
me and an audience now that if I've done
the movie regardless of the subject

576
00:42:07,001 --> 00:42:09,000
matter, you should turn up because
it's going to be a good film?

577
00:42:09,001 --> 00:42:12,000
I know that's kind of wacky to say that,
but yeah, I do feel that.

578
00:42:12,001 --> 00:42:17,000
I do feel after, you know, LA Confidential,
The Insider, Gladiator, Beautiful

579
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,001
Mind, Master and Commander Cinderella Man,
there should be some understanding

580
00:42:19,001 --> 00:42:22,001
between me and the audience that,
you know, if I've done

581
00:42:22,001 --> 00:42:24,000
it, one, I've put a lot of effort into it.

582
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
And two, there's something about
it that'll touch your heart.

583
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,001
But the spontaneity that serves him so
well in front of the camera frequently

584
00:42:30,001 --> 00:42:32,001
gets him in trouble away from it.

585
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,001
He's known for making brash comments and
boorish behavior, and he's the first one

586
00:42:37,001 --> 00:42:41,000
to admit that he has neither the
discipline nor the desire to correct it.

587
00:42:41,001 --> 00:42:45,001
I'm not Machiavellian.
I don't play chess with my life.

588
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,001
You know, I respond in the moment,
which is what makes me a good actor.

589
00:42:51,001 --> 00:42:55,000
It makes me sometimes a good interview subject.

590
00:42:56,001 --> 00:42:58,001
But it also makes me a very easy target.

591
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,001
What do you think your reputation is?

592
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,000
From a public point of view, you know,
it's just some sort of like, nightmare

593
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,000
presence on a film set, you know,
where everything must revolve around me.

594
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,000
In the reality, and the reason that I work
with the type of directors that I do,

595
00:43:13,001 --> 00:43:20,000
is that I'm a 100% reliable lieutenant
who is there to serve the needs of the

596
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,001
story to the best of his ability.
And these two things are completely different.

597
00:43:26,001 --> 00:43:33,000
You know, so yeah,
so I think my reputation is something that

598
00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:35,001
I'll probably try to spend the rest of my life

599
00:43:35,001 --> 00:43:37,000
living it down, and it probably won't work.

600
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,001
You know, I don't know. I just get on and
work with the directors who still want

601
00:43:43,001 --> 00:43:47,001
to take the big risk of
working with such a madman.

602
00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:51,001
And some of the best seem
perfectly willing to do it.

603
00:43:51,001 --> 00:43:53,000
Bring him across, bring him across.

604
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Ridley Scott is the director of American
Gangster, his third film with Crow.

605
00:43:58,001 --> 00:43:59,000
Explain Russell Crow.

606
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:01,001
How long have you got?

607
00:44:03,001 --> 00:44:04,000
He's complicated.

608
00:44:05,001 --> 00:44:07,001
That's what makes him tick. Russell is complex.

609
00:44:08,001 --> 00:44:13,000
And make no mistake about that.
Usually the best ones are complex, intelligent,

610
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,000
you know, take no prisoners. You got to
be prepared to go to war with Russell.

611
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,001
When we were doing our interviews,
from the first question.

612
00:44:22,001 --> 00:44:24,001
Combative from the very beginning.

613
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,001
But it's testing the water.
He's testing the ice.

614
00:44:27,001 --> 00:44:30,001
He's testing the ground. And you got to

615
00:44:30,001 --> 00:44:32,001
basically give him as good as he gives you.

616
00:44:33,001 --> 00:44:38,000
One of the things that upsets Crow the
most is the idea of being stereotyped and

617
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,001
pigeonholed in the media by
reporters who don't really know him.

618
00:44:41,001 --> 00:44:45,000
You can smell it coming from a mile away, mate.
You know, when somebody's only

619
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,000
asking you questions to put you into
a little box, so it actually suits

620
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,001
what they've already decided in their own mind.

621
00:44:49,001 --> 00:44:53,001
You know, the media label that seems
to stick is Hollywood bad boy.

622
00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,001
But what comes along with that is boozing,
brawling, at times

623
00:45:00,001 --> 00:45:02,001
womanizing, not recently.

624
00:45:05,001 --> 00:45:06,000
[...]

625
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,001
How much of that is mythology?

626
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Well, I've had the odd night on the tipple.

627
00:45:15,001 --> 00:45:19,000
I've definitely had a few times in my
life where I felt that I need right then

628
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000
and there to fight for my
honor or somebody else's.

629
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,001
And I do love the ladies, Steve.

630
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,001
What do you expect me to say?

631
00:45:29,001 --> 00:45:32,001
You know, I'm married. I'm absolutely married.

632
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,000
I have two beautiful children and
I hope to have the third one, but

633
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
probably don't bring that
up with a wife just yet.

634
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,001
After months of loneliness on the set of
Master and Commander, Crow married his

635
00:45:43,001 --> 00:45:48,001
long time ex-girlfriend,
Australian actress Danielle Spencer, in 2004.

636
00:45:48,001 --> 00:45:51,000
But it would be premature to say he's mellowed.

637
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,001
They're making their life in
Australia where Crow owns a rugby

638
00:45:54,001 --> 00:45:56,001
team and a ranch outside Sydney.

639
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,001
We wanted to know what he
had to say about Hollywood.

640
00:46:00,001 --> 00:46:01,001
You want a one word answer?

641
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,001
Employment.

642
00:46:07,001 --> 00:46:11,000
I want to read you one quote.
Of course, you can completely disown it.

643
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,000
It's a quote of mine.

644
00:46:14,001 --> 00:46:16,000
Maybe it's better I don't travel to America.

645
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,001
Maybe it's better I don't work
in the area of the business

646
00:46:18,001 --> 00:46:20,001
that attracts so many flies.

647
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,001
This is a little more blunt than you just put.

648
00:46:27,001 --> 00:46:30,000
You got any footage of me walking
to the courthouse in Manhattan?

649
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,001
Probably.

650
00:46:33,001 --> 00:46:34,000
That's my answer.

651
00:46:37,001 --> 00:46:39,001
This is the scene Crow is talking about.

652
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,000
The occasion was a 2005 court
appearance at which he entered a plea

653
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,001
of guilty to third degree assault.

654
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,000
It followed an incident at the Mercer
Hotel in which Crow threw a telephone at a

655
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000
desk clerk because he was unable to complete a

656
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000
phone call to his wife in Australia.

657
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,001
It was a $160 fine, Stephen.

658
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,001
So it wasn't important as 200 press people
turning up to a courthouse, was it?

659
00:47:03,001 --> 00:47:07,000
You know, trying to bash my wife in the
head with their cameras, falling over

660
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,001
each other, cameramen jumping on top of each

661
00:47:08,001 --> 00:47:10,000
other and trampling each other on the ground.

662
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,000
It wasn't that important, mate.

663
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,001
[...]

664
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,000
You know, where I come from, a confrontation
like that, as basic and simple as

665
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,000
that, would have been satisfied
with a handshake and an apology.

666
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,000
But not this time.

667
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,001
You're Russell Crowe.

668
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,001
Not in this country.

669
00:47:29,001 --> 00:47:30,001
You're Russell Crowe.

670
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:37,000
And your legal system is
very open to being misused.

671
00:47:37,001 --> 00:47:39,000
How would you characterize that incident?

672
00:47:40,001 --> 00:47:40,001
Minor.

673
00:47:41,001 --> 00:47:41,001
[...]

674
00:47:42,001 --> 00:47:43,000
You're a traveling man.

675
00:47:43,001 --> 00:47:45,000
You've been overseas a lot.

676
00:47:45,001 --> 00:47:49,000
Is there a place in your memory bank
where you as a traveling businessman have

677
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000
lost your temper in the floor of a hotel?

678
00:47:51,001 --> 00:47:52,001
I'm sure there is.

679
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,001
Now, I don't think I've formed a piece
of telecommunications equipment.

680
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,001
That's the only difference.

681
00:48:00,001 --> 00:48:03,000
Did you regret this incident
at the Mercer Hotel?

682
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Of course I did.

683
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:11,001
And, you know, it was unreasonable of me,
you know, in terms of taking

684
00:48:11,001 --> 00:48:13,000
out my frustrations on that individual.

685
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,001
It cost Crowe more than the $160 fine.

686
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,000
He reportedly paid the desk clerk a
$100,000 settlement to avoid a civil lawsuit.

687
00:48:22,001 --> 00:48:24,000
And the incident damaged his reputation.

688
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,001
He blamed it on massive jet lag,
his disappointment over Cinderella Man, and

689
00:48:29,001 --> 00:48:31,000
being separated from his family.

690
00:48:31,001 --> 00:48:32,001
I mean, it's not the first time it's

691
00:48:32,001 --> 00:48:34,000
happened,
but there have been a number of incidents.

692
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,001
[...]

693
00:48:37,001 --> 00:48:39,000
There's been a number of reports.

694
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,000
A number of reports, right.

695
00:48:40,001 --> 00:48:45,000
And the percentage of real incidents
to reports is probably about 10%.

696
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,000
You were doing a play in Australia
in that you headbutted one of

697
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,001
your fellow actors, Peter Cousins.

698
00:48:51,001 --> 00:48:52,000
And that...

699
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,001
Yes, he was screaming at me at the time.

700
00:48:54,001 --> 00:48:56,001
He was calling me all manner of things.

701
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,000
And all the other cast, all the three other
principal guys that I worked with, or

702
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,001
that I shared a dressing with,
were holding my arms.

703
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,000
So that's all I had left to hit him with.

704
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,001
And he ****ing deserved it.

705
00:49:15,001 --> 00:49:15,001
[...]

706
00:49:17,001 --> 00:49:18,000
Why are you laughing?

707
00:49:18,001 --> 00:49:19,000
See, can't help myself.

708
00:49:19,001 --> 00:49:20,001
Couldn't tell you the truth.

709
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Okay.

710
00:49:21,001 --> 00:49:23,001
You're copying to the argument
that you have a temper.

711
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,001
Oh, hell yeah.

712
00:49:25,001 --> 00:49:26,000
Absolutely, man.

713
00:49:26,001 --> 00:49:27,000
I have a temper.

714
00:49:27,001 --> 00:49:28,000
My mum's got a temper.

715
00:49:28,001 --> 00:49:29,001
My brother's got a temper.

716
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,000
You got to have one.

717
00:49:33,001 --> 00:49:34,001
You know what happens if you don't have one?

718
00:49:34,001 --> 00:49:36,000
One day you're walking down
the street and you just pop.

719
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,001
You're lying there dead on the pavement
because you've been holding and

720
00:49:39,001 --> 00:49:41,000
suppressing all this bull****, you know?

721
00:49:41,001 --> 00:49:44,000
I mean,
do you think you have some sort of an...

722
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,001
I mean, you have a problem with your anger.

723
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,000
Do you have a problem with your anger?

724
00:49:47,001 --> 00:49:47,001
No.

725
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,001
No, I don't.

726
00:49:50,001 --> 00:49:51,000
You know, if it's...

727
00:49:52,001 --> 00:49:55,000
Oh, I'm not even going to give you
the benefit of answering those terms.

728
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,001
I live a real life, man.

729
00:49:57,001 --> 00:49:59,000
It's complex, you know?

730
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000
Some days are absolute diamonds
and some days are dog ****.

731
00:50:01,001 --> 00:50:03,000
Same as everybody else.

732
00:50:03,001 --> 00:50:06,001
Unfortunately, some days are diamonds
I've taken and I turn them into dog ****.

733
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
But you live and you learn.

734
00:50:09,001 --> 00:50:13,001
Crow says his combativeness comes from
his struggle to be taken seriously as an

735
00:50:13,001 --> 00:50:17,000
actor and that cultural differences
between Americans and Australians

736
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
cause people to misjudge him.

737
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,000
What he thinks is honest and direct
is interpreted as arrogant and rude.

738
00:50:23,001 --> 00:50:27,001
And even those who don't like him say his
outbursts of anger are often followed

739
00:50:27,001 --> 00:50:31,000
by extreme generosity and even contrition.

740
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,001
I don't know.

741
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,000
I think I'm just a kid, man.

742
00:50:33,001 --> 00:50:36,000
You know, I take everything and people
that face value, which probably gets me

743
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,000
into trouble a lot because, you know,
somebody asked me a question and

744
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
I tend to answer it from my heart.

745
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,001
And it's not always clever in this day and age,
you know?

746
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,001
So I'd never make a politician.

747
00:50:49,001 --> 00:50:51,000
But, you know, I love the job.

748
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,001
Asked all the questions.

749
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Got answers to everything.

750
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,000
Didn't get punched out.

751
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,001
It must be one of the lucky ones, didn't it?

752
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,001
When it comes to relieving arthritis pain,
you may think some prescription NSAID

753
00:51:13,001 --> 00:51:17,001
pain relievers like ibuprofen and naproxen
don't have any cardiovascular risks.

754
00:51:18,001 --> 00:51:21,000
But based on the available research,
that's not clear.

755
00:51:21,001 --> 00:51:26,000
And if you look closer, the FDA requires
all these NSAID pain relievers,

756
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,000
including Celebrex,
to have the same cardiovascular warning.

757
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,001
Any prescription NSAID, including Celebrex,
may increase the chance of heart

758
00:51:36,001 --> 00:51:38,001
attack or stroke, which can lead to death.

759
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,001
This chance increases if you have heart
disease or risk factors for it, such as

760
00:51:43,001 --> 00:51:46,001
high blood pressure or when NSAIDs
are taken for long periods.

761
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,001
All NSAIDs, including Celebrex,
also increase the chance of serious skin

762
00:51:51,001 --> 00:51:56,000
reactions or stomach and intestine problems,
such as bleeding and ulcers, which

763
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,001
can occur without warning and may cause death.
With any of these medicines,

764
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,001
patients also taking aspirin in the
elderly are at increased risk for stomach

765
00:52:04,001 --> 00:52:08,001
bleeding and ulcers. While all NSAIDs
have some of the same warnings, they all

766
00:52:08,001 --> 00:52:13,000
treat arthritis pain. But since individual
results may vary, having options is

767
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:18,001
important. An NSAID like Celebrex may
be one option. In fact, prescription

768
00:52:18,001 --> 00:52:20,001
Celebrex has never been taken off the market.

769
00:52:21,001 --> 00:52:26,000
Based on the available data, the FDA stated
that for certain patients, Celebrex's

770
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,001
benefits outweigh the risks. But only you
and your doctor can make that decision.

771
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,001
Let's dive deeper. In clinical studies,
a lower percentage of patients on

772
00:52:38,001 --> 00:52:43,000
Celebrex reported indigestion,
abdominal pain and nausea, versus prescription

773
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:49,000
ibuprofen and naproxen. Celebrex can
be used with low dose aspirin. Other

774
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:56,000
prescription NSAIDs aren't generally
recommended with aspirin. Celebrex relieves

775
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,001
arthritis pain, stiffness and inflammation.
Just one 200 milligram dose provides

776
00:53:01,001 --> 00:53:08,001
24 hour relief. Do not take Celebrex if

777
00:53:08,001 --> 00:53:12,001
you're pregnant or have had allergic
reactions to aspirin or sulfonamides.

778
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,001
And tell your doctor if you've
had kidney or liver problems.

779
00:53:20,001 --> 00:53:25,001
For many with arthritis pain, not treating
is not an option. Talk to your doctor

780
00:53:25,001 --> 00:53:30,000
about Celebrex and see what's right for you.
Understand the

781
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,001
risks, see the benefits.

782
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784
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792
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I'm Victoria Johnson,
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793
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killed while serving honorably in Iraq.

794
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795
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796
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make a change and amend the law so that
military reservists wouldn't be penalized

797
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798
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799
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800
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Back to back at seven and seven thirty on KIMA.

801
00:55:04,001 --> 00:55:10,001
Again tonight here's Andy. The milk we
get from cows has always had a special

802
00:55:10,001 --> 00:55:14,001
standing among the foods we eat.
Mothers are always saying to kids drink your

803
00:55:14,001 --> 00:55:20,000
milk. So what in the world have they
done to this simple and basic food? How

804
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,001
about a calf wouldn't drink most of the
stuff called milk in these cartons here?

805
00:55:24,001 --> 00:55:29,000
You can't tell some of it from Diet Coke.
The companies that sell milk are upset

806
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:34,000
because people are drinking less milk than
they used to and they don't know why.

807
00:55:34,001 --> 00:55:38,000
Has it ever occurred to them that
people aren't drinking it because

808
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,001
milk isn't as good as it used to be?

809
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:46,000
These all came out of the milk section of
a grocery store. Low-fat milk, fat-free

810
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:52,001
milk, 2% reduced fat milk, skim milk.
Before milk was homogenized, that's

811
00:55:52,001 --> 00:55:57,000
mixing the cream in with the milk,
cream came to the top of your milk bottle. If

812
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,000
they took the cream off the top,
they skimmed it off. What this ought to be

813
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,001
called is not skim milk but skimmed milk.
Saturated fats are bad for our

814
00:56:06,001 --> 00:56:10,000
arteries. We all know that.
But do you know how much fat milk has

815
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,000
in it as it comes from a cow?

816
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:19,000
What about 3.2%? So 2% is no big reduction.
I like half and half on

817
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,000
my shredded wheat, but when I say half and
half, I mean half milk and half cream.

818
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,001
I bought this the other day and I didn't
like the taste, so I looked at the label

819
00:56:28,001 --> 00:56:33,000
to see what it was half of and what
the other half was. Listen to these

820
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:39,000
ingredients. Non-fat milk, milk,
corn syrup solids, artificial color,

821
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,001
sugar, dipotassium phosphate,
sodium citrate, monodiglycerides,

822
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:52,000
carrageenan, natural and artificial flavors,
vitamin A palmitate. This is half

823
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,001
and half, not half anything I want.
It has nothing to do with something as good

824
00:56:56,001 --> 00:57:03,000
as milk. This is 3.2%. They call it whole milk.
Why don't they just call it milk?

825
00:57:03,001 --> 00:57:08,001
Some of this other stuff tastes more like
whole water. They all like to use the

826
00:57:08,001 --> 00:57:13,001
words farmer, dairy on their cartons.
This comes from farmland dairies in

827
00:57:13,001 --> 00:57:18,001
Wellington, New Jersey. We went to
Wellington looking for a dairy farm. The

828
00:57:18,001 --> 00:57:25,000
address was 520 Main Avenue. This is the farm.
No cow inside here. My suggestion,

829
00:57:25,001 --> 00:57:30,000
if they want to sell more milk, is that
they go back to selling what comes out of

830
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,001
a cow. I'm Leslie Stahl.
We'll be back next week with another

831
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When you know it,
one moment we're on the road to romance

836
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when suddenly it gets interrupted.

837
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,001
That's why for guys like me with ED,
they're Cialis. Cialis is the only erectile

838
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dysfunction tablet clinically proven to
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839
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,001
minutes for some men and work up to 36 hours.
The fact that Cialis can work fast

840
00:58:14,001 --> 00:58:19,000
is great, but having up to 36 hours gives
me the option of being ready once the

841
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,000
moment is finally right. Tell your doctor
about your medical conditions and all

842
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,001
medications and ask if you're healthy
enough for sexual activity. Don't take

843
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Cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain,
as this may cause

844
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845
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Don't drink alcohol in excess with Cialis.
Side effects may include headache,

846
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upset stomach, delayed back ache or
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847
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seek immediate medical help if you experience
priapism, an erection lasting more

848
00:58:42,001 --> 00:58:46,000
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decrease in vision, stop taking Cialis

849
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,001
and call your doctor right away.
Why ask your doctor about Cialis?

850
00:58:49,001 --> 00:58:53,000
Because even after an interruption,
you can still be ready. When the moment is

851
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right, you can be ready with Cialis.
She woke up knowing today would be the day.

852
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:10,001
She let one hand go, then the other.
Such bravery, I thought. And so, for the

853
00:59:10,001 --> 00:59:14,001
girl with the tiny little hands,
something good for the tiny little tummy.

854
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:22,001
Tomorrow's.

855
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,001
If pain is keeping you from sleeping at night,
but you're worried about taking

856
00:59:29,001 --> 00:59:34,001
prescription sleep aids, you should know
Tylenol PM is different, and when used

857
00:59:34,001 --> 00:59:37,000
as directed,
it has not been shown to cause dependency.

858
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,001
[...]

859
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,000
keep their